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	<title>Comments on: 2009-06-14 &#124; Emmanuel Church</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Pipitone</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3319</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Pipitone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries, Brandon. Enough years doing this and you develop a pretty thick skin. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, Brandon. Enough years doing this and you develop a pretty thick skin. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3318</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to apologize Daniel I was incredibly drunk at the time haha. It might not be original but it is pleasing to the eye. Sorry for being arrogant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to apologize Daniel I was incredibly drunk at the time haha. It might not be original but it is pleasing to the eye. Sorry for being arrogant!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Marie Bruno</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3305</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Marie Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it! Simple but to the point. I like the colors and I definatly like the rough lines, gives it texture.
Thanks Daniel for sharing your talents, you are a blessing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it! Simple but to the point. I like the colors and I definatly like the rough lines, gives it texture.<br />
Thanks Daniel for sharing your talents, you are a blessing!</p>
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		<title>By: DChuck</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3299</link>
		<dc:creator>DChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a fish on a table before seing the cancer ribbon. Actually, without reading the comments I wouldn&#039;t have tought of the ribbon because they tend to be larger and bolder, with a darker interior to mark depth.

this is clearly a church logo, and a good one might I add. The previous &quot;crown&quot; church logo kinda made me feel unconfortable because of the idea behind royalty and riches.

This one is more modest, the &quot;sloppyness&quot; of the table&#039;s contour makes me think of a worn wooden table, something sober. The fish is of course relevant.

I Honnestly think this is the best church logo I&#039;ve seen so far. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a fish on a table before seing the cancer ribbon. Actually, without reading the comments I wouldn&#8217;t have tought of the ribbon because they tend to be larger and bolder, with a darker interior to mark depth.</p>
<p>this is clearly a church logo, and a good one might I add. The previous &#8220;crown&#8221; church logo kinda made me feel unconfortable because of the idea behind royalty and riches.</p>
<p>This one is more modest, the &#8220;sloppyness&#8221; of the table&#8217;s contour makes me think of a worn wooden table, something sober. The fish is of course relevant.</p>
<p>I Honnestly think this is the best church logo I&#8217;ve seen so far. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its reputable and works for a church. Great brief.
Thumbs up!</description>
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Thumbs up!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Pipitone</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3292</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Pipitone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Phase 3. Yeah, I actually did two configurations. Horizontal and Vertical. The other one I think displays a bit nicer online. You can see it here:
http://danielpipitonedesign.com/2009/05/emmanuel-christian-church-identity/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Phase 3. Yeah, I actually did two configurations. Horizontal and Vertical. The other one I think displays a bit nicer online. You can see it here:<br />
<a href="http://danielpipitonedesign.com/2009/05/emmanuel-christian-church-identity/" rel="nofollow">http://danielpipitonedesign.com/2009/05/emmanuel-christian-church-identity/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3291</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like the colors, but would have gone with a more unified box; I think the stokes break it up too much right now. Other than that, I think it&#039;s a pretty good logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like the colors, but would have gone with a more unified box; I think the stokes break it up too much right now. Other than that, I think it&#8217;s a pretty good logo.</p>
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		<title>By: Phase3</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3290</link>
		<dc:creator>Phase3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree it doesnt look too pretty on this page but the printed version looks quite good. Concept is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree it doesnt look too pretty on this page but the printed version looks quite good. Concept is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Pipitone</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3289</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Pipitone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, EJSchultz. 

I tend to believe in the idea that &quot;Good design is good business.&quot; So when you say &quot;better design&quot; do you mean aesthetics or execution? I believe both of those things are relative. If you mean &quot;better design&quot; in terms of solving the clients problem successfully and in a way that satisfies the brief and makes them happy...well, that sounds to me like &quot;good business&quot; and &quot;better design.&quot;

As I said in an above comment, the client did drive the direction using the brief, however the execution is all me, and I don&#039;t mind saying I happen to quite like it. I looked around a lot at church logos, and I think this one fares quite well comparatively against many others with empty meaning and cliche. 

Also, for Christian churches, the fish means a lot to them, and the idea of making it too far one way or the other just to avoid reminding people of something else is just not worth it.

In the end, again, it solved the problem posed, and it NO logo is going to appeal to everyone all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, EJSchultz. </p>
<p>I tend to believe in the idea that &#8220;Good design is good business.&#8221; So when you say &#8220;better design&#8221; do you mean aesthetics or execution? I believe both of those things are relative. If you mean &#8220;better design&#8221; in terms of solving the clients problem successfully and in a way that satisfies the brief and makes them happy&#8230;well, that sounds to me like &#8220;good business&#8221; and &#8220;better design.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I said in an above comment, the client did drive the direction using the brief, however the execution is all me, and I don&#8217;t mind saying I happen to quite like it. I looked around a lot at church logos, and I think this one fares quite well comparatively against many others with empty meaning and cliche. </p>
<p>Also, for Christian churches, the fish means a lot to them, and the idea of making it too far one way or the other just to avoid reminding people of something else is just not worth it.</p>
<p>In the end, again, it solved the problem posed, and it NO logo is going to appeal to everyone all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: EJSchultz</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3288</link>
		<dc:creator>EJSchultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The image reminds me of a ribbon, like the breast cancer, or bring our troops home ribbons... I know where you are coming from Daniel, but as a professional you can guide your clients into better design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The image reminds me of a ribbon, like the breast cancer, or bring our troops home ribbons&#8230; I know where you are coming from Daniel, but as a professional you can guide your clients into better design.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Pinho</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3287</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Pinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too crazy about the logo, but I&#039;m a huge fan of the type. The &quot;emmanuel&quot; reads beautifully, although I&#039;m surprised they wanted it with a lowercase &#039;e&#039;. I&#039;m not sure what you were going for with the thin red outline on the ribbon/fish. Is that supposed to represent blood? I think it needs to be clarified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too crazy about the logo, but I&#8217;m a huge fan of the type. The &#8220;emmanuel&#8221; reads beautifully, although I&#8217;m surprised they wanted it with a lowercase &#8216;e&#8217;. I&#8217;m not sure what you were going for with the thin red outline on the ribbon/fish. Is that supposed to represent blood? I think it needs to be clarified.</p>
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		<title>By: Moth</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>Moth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s decent. Like Daniel said ... for what it is being used for it works. Doesn&#039;t have to be a breakthrough awe inspiring logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s decent. Like Daniel said &#8230; for what it is being used for it works. Doesn&#8217;t have to be a breakthrough awe inspiring logo.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough brief.</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Pipitone</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3284</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Pipitone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, FWIW, I think it&#039;s important to remember that a critical skill as a designer is to design to the brief, honoring our client&#039;s goals more than our own likes / dislikes. After 13 years doing this, I have come to realize this is the most important thing to remember in the process. But thanks for the...um...constructive feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, FWIW, I think it&#8217;s important to remember that a critical skill as a designer is to design to the brief, honoring our client&#8217;s goals more than our own likes / dislikes. After 13 years doing this, I have come to realize this is the most important thing to remember in the process. But thanks for the&#8230;um&#8230;constructive feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Pipitone</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3283</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Pipitone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...tough crowd. I guess I asked for it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;tough crowd. I guess I asked for it <img src='http://logooftheday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Callum Chapman</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3282</link>
		<dc:creator>Callum Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... It&#039;s old fashioned, not memorable and uses some of the most unappetising colours I&#039;ve ever seen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; It&#8217;s old fashioned, not memorable and uses some of the most unappetising colours I&#8217;ve ever seen!</p>
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		<title>By: brandon</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2009-06-14-emmanuel-church/#comment-3280</link>
		<dc:creator>brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nothing original here, lets move along folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nothing original here, lets move along folks.</p>
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