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		<title>By: DChuck</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>DChuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this logo should be redifined. It lacks a soul... and should lose some weight.

What type is it going to get? Website? letter header? business card? with it&#039;s current situation, I can&#039;t see much more than web usage for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this logo should be redifined. It lacks a soul&#8230; and should lose some weight.</p>
<p>What type is it going to get? Website? letter header? business card? with it&#8217;s current situation, I can&#8217;t see much more than web usage for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,

I love an in-depth discussion around the grey areas of design theory,  particularly logos...thanks for the forum to do so, and for your reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob,</p>
<p>I love an in-depth discussion around the grey areas of design theory,  particularly logos&#8230;thanks for the forum to do so, and for your reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Cass</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitch &amp; David,
I can strongly agree with with what both of you have said... My comment was not worded correctly and I can see how it was taken now, I was meaning to say that some logos may not have a visual concept that you can see ( such as an image in the negative space) which is what I was &lt;em&gt;trying&lt;/em&gt; to say when saying &quot;not all logos have visual concepts&quot; behind them.

A logo designer does need rational for the choices they make and like you said Mitch, communicate an intended message. But is this what you meant when you said &quot;Am I missing the concept?&quot; Btw, I have since updated my comment.

Thank you both for your feedback and opinions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch &#038; David,<br />
I can strongly agree with with what both of you have said&#8230; My comment was not worded correctly and I can see how it was taken now, I was meaning to say that some logos may not have a visual concept that you can see ( such as an image in the negative space) which is what I was <em>trying</em> to say when saying &#8220;not all logos have visual concepts&#8221; behind them.</p>
<p>A logo designer does need rational for the choices they make and like you said Mitch, communicate an intended message. But is this what you meant when you said &#8220;Am I missing the concept?&#8221; Btw, I have since updated my comment.</p>
<p>Thank you both for your feedback and opinions!</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Bravo!

In the  real world in my experience if you have no concept you have no justification for charging a reasonable rate for a logo. It has become quite easy to get a mac and a software package and call yourself a designer, and there are training programs out there that can make you and adobe genius in a month. The difference between that designer and a truly successful designer (IMO) is the &quot;concept&quot;...  the ability to devise and construct a piece of communication that is not only is visually engaging but communicates a message it the hidden skill of design. No disrespect to anyone but if i ever uttered the words  &quot;not all logos have visual concepts behind them&quot; i woulnt get paid and i wouldnt get another job...in my experience logos / branding need to be approved by a number of people sometimes a whole board, and without a concept to explainthe logo someone will inevitably say &quot;so why are we paying so much money for this?&quot; The ability for a designer to construct and then explain their concept is what (IMO) makes a great designer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Bravo!</p>
<p>In the  real world in my experience if you have no concept you have no justification for charging a reasonable rate for a logo. It has become quite easy to get a mac and a software package and call yourself a designer, and there are training programs out there that can make you and adobe genius in a month. The difference between that designer and a truly successful designer (IMO) is the &#8220;concept&#8221;&#8230;  the ability to devise and construct a piece of communication that is not only is visually engaging but communicates a message it the hidden skill of design. No disrespect to anyone but if i ever uttered the words  &#8220;not all logos have visual concepts behind them&#8221; i woulnt get paid and i wouldnt get another job&#8230;in my experience logos / branding need to be approved by a number of people sometimes a whole board, and without a concept to explainthe logo someone will inevitably say &#8220;so why are we paying so much money for this?&#8221; The ability for a designer to construct and then explain their concept is what (IMO) makes a great designer.</p>
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		<title>By: David Crawford</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,

I think it&#039;s a nice type treatment, but I have to disagree that logos don&#039;t need a concept. The designer should be able to explain why he or she did what they did based on some kind of concept, otherwise, it&#039;s just some type on a page. Concept is king, and sure, this logo doesn&#039;t need an icon or the type creating an image in the negative space, but it sure needs a rational of why they made the choices  they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a nice type treatment, but I have to disagree that logos don&#8217;t need a concept. The designer should be able to explain why he or she did what they did based on some kind of concept, otherwise, it&#8217;s just some type on a page. Concept is king, and sure, this logo doesn&#8217;t need an icon or the type creating an image in the negative space, but it sure needs a rational of why they made the choices  they did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Cass</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
The logo is a logotype which has been constructed for their website, and quite well too! Like Rafal said, notice how the line goes through the Z, B an I and how the F and U connect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
The logo is a logotype which has been constructed for their website, and quite well too! Like Rafal said, notice how the line goes through the Z, B an I and how the F and U connect.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafal</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The logo is not the best, though it is not bad either. The 2 fonts are not a big deal, the way the font was handled is clearly evident that it was well thought out and clean. I love how the f u and b connect. Also, the stripe is nicely handled, it was well thought out as well, I like how it crosses the Z and B in the bottom left corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The logo is not the best, though it is not bad either. The 2 fonts are not a big deal, the way the font was handled is clearly evident that it was well thought out and clean. I love how the f u and b connect. Also, the stripe is nicely handled, it was well thought out as well, I like how it crosses the Z and B in the bottom left corner.</p>
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		<title>By: jakub</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>jakub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but I don&#039;t see how this is a well executed logo... two different fonts were used, with no changes aside for a pink strip across one of the words. Maybe I&#039;m missing the meaning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I don&#8217;t see how this is a well executed logo&#8230; two different fonts were used, with no changes aside for a pink strip across one of the words. Maybe I&#8217;m missing the meaning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Crawford</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I read the tagline. I was wondering what was the concept so that I could maybe understand the design choices that were made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I read the tagline. I was wondering what was the concept so that I could maybe understand the design choices that were made.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daily &#039;close&#039; of inspiration?! I think it is a vibrant well-executed logo overall~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daily &#8216;close&#8217; of inspiration?! I think it is a vibrant well-executed logo overall~</p>
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		<title>By: David Crawford</title>
		<link>http://logooftheday.com/2008-12-19-fubiz/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This logo is interesting, but am I missing the concept?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This logo is interesting, but am I missing the concept?</p>
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